The Last Ring-bearer - Еврей без ярлыков — LiveJournal
The Last Ring-bearer|UPDATE: Second edition!
More than 15 years ago Russian scientist Kirill Yeskov
tried to settle certain geographical problems in Tolkien's fantasy world. One thing led to another, and he tackled a bigger project - what if we assumed that it's no less real than our world? His conclusion was that in such a case, the story of the Ring of Power is most likely a much-altered heroic retelling of a major war - but what was that war really about?
The result of this re-appraisal was the publication in 1999 of The Last Ring-bearer
- a re-thinking of Tolkien's story in real-world terms. Dr. Yeskov, a professional paleontologist whose job is reconstructing long-extinct organisms and their way of life from fossil remnants, performs essentially the same feat in The Last Ring-bearer
, reconstructing the real world of Tolkien's Arda from The Lord of the Rings
- the heroic tales of the Free Men of the West written in that world. We have a pretty good idea how well heroic tales map to reality from our own world...
I was impressed enough by this work to spend a few dozen lunch hours translating it to English. (Reportedly, some publishing houses have considered a commercial translation of this book, which had been published in several major European languages, but abandoned the idea out of fear of the Tolkien estate, which doesn't countenance any derivative works, especially in English. Witness the history of its relationship with New Line Cinema. This translation is non-commercial. The Russian original can be found here.
) I have been fortunate to establish communication with the author and have the translation vetted (and much corrected) by him. I now offer this work for your perusal
. At 139,000 words, this 1 Mb PDF is about 80% of the length of The Fellowship of the Ring
. Suggestions for corrections will be appreciated. Please mention how you heard about this translation when commenting. Errata will be published here soon.
UPDATE: I have translated an essay
Dr. Yeskov wrote after the first publication of this book. It may answer some of your questions about his motivation and method.</b>
thanks to Matthew Wilcoxson.
I have to disappoint the fans of Sauron: His Majesty Sauron the VIII rates only a few mentions in this work, having been nothing more than an enlightened king. Nor does the Ring of Power rate more than a passing mention. Likewise the Hobbits: unlike LOTR, this story is not about them. Finally, no attempt has been made to imitate J.R.R. Tolkien's style - it is deliberately modern and down-to-earth.
I am now working on a second edition, with some corrections (very few, the author was thorough) and, hopefully, smoother prose.
- Page 5: read "consciousness" for "conscious." I'm considering a different expression altogether, as it's hard to walk while unconscious. Same on page 71.
- Page 53: read "Those may very well be needed more than the rest." for "Seemingly, those will be needed no more than all the rest."
- Page 108: read "had decided to call them Mountains of Shadow" for "had decided to cal then Mountains of Shadow"
"I" as in YMarkov?
Impressive, thank you.
|Date:||October 3rd, 2010 11:04 pm (UTC)|| |
|Date:||October 5th, 2010 09:50 pm (UTC)|| |
Incorrect translation detected. In Sharya-Rana's dialogue with Haladdin, Sharya-Rana says that "poets will be needed no more than the rest", while in Russian, he says something quite the opposite: "эти понадобятся как бы не больше всех остальных".
Otherwise found no inconsistencies with the translation, great work, spent most of the day to read it through. :-)
|Date:||October 6th, 2010 01:41 am (UTC)|| |
Спасибо, исправлю в следующем издании :-)
|Date:||October 6th, 2010 08:59 am (UTC)|| |
Fortunately, using Sharya-Rana’s information, Tzerlag managed to locate in the Shara-Teg Gorge a well-regulated company reporting to the main command of the Resistance./.../
It’s logical to suppose that the regiment is still a well-regulated fighting unit that has gone underground, and now these people are planning your ‘liberation’. I think we’ve already established what would happen then.”
Верно ли использование определения well-regulated в этих контекстах?
|Date:||October 8th, 2010 02:02 am (UTC)|| |
Я полагаю, что да. Одной из изюминок в оригинальном тексте являются "отсылки" на разные реалии. Их перевод представляет из себя отдельную трудность. В рамках нынешнего американского базара о том, что же всё-таки означают слова "well-regulated militia" во Второй Поправке Билля о Правах, я счёл забавным именно так "отослать" к пониманию этого термина классическими конституционалистами США.
Прочитал до страницы 59 (Больше просто не напечатал на работе в пятницу). Несколько мест бросилось в глаза пока читал по пути на работу и домой.
Стр 8 по тексту. У вас: "Sure, the Throne, the Motherland and all that... but the generals kept doing things whose stupidity was obvious even to a sergeant."
У меня загвоздка с оборотом "... things whose stupidity ..." так как я востпринимаю модифицирует `generals` а не `things`.
"... things which stupidity ..." тоже не звучит.
Может надо "... things stupidity of which..."?
Стр 40. Если только Вы не сделали зто умышленно, чтоб сделать речь Цэрлага более "простонародной", то у вас пропущен артикль `of` перед `cola nuts` в предложение: "Wait - gimme a couple cola nuts, I could use them, too." По оригиналу речь Цэрлага: Да, постой! Кинь-ка пару орешков кола - мне тоже не повредит. Может "Hang on, toss me a couple of cola nuts - I could use them too" подойдет?
Стр 48. В оригинале это предложение звучит так: "Есть среди нас и короли. Так же как королевичи, сапожники, портные.... ну и все прочие." У вас это предложение звучит так: "There are kings among us too, аs well as doctors, lawyers, merchants, chiefs, and such." Chief (что скорее титул главы чего-либо) скорее всего не правильно, и Вы имели в виду chef (повар).
Стр 52. В предложение "... sings the majestic strength of the old buck..." пропущен артикль "of" или слово "about". "Sings of the majestic strength of the old buck..." etc.
А так пока отличный перевод. Уже разрекоммендовал многим знакомым. Спасибо вам.
|Date:||October 12th, 2010 11:39 pm (UTC)|| |
"things stupidity of which..." - да, пожалуй, так лучше.
Стр. 40 - да, умышленно. Однако Вы предложили более удачный оборот.
Стр. 48 - этот момент мы некоторое время перетирали с др. Еськовым. Ближайший найденный нами аналог этой считалки - вторая строчка английской считалочки Tinker, tailor, soldier, thief / doctor, lawyer, merchant, chief. Так что без поваров :-)
Стр. 52 - вопрос спорный. Помните у Брэдбери I Sing The Body Electric? Я именно хотел использовать поэтический стиль.
Спасибо, жду дальнейших советов и предложений!
Why don't they change the copyrighted terms, but keep the structure, and release it like that?
|Date:||January 16th, 2011 12:45 am (UTC)|| |
Who's "they" - the publishers? My guess would be that in English it would be an open-and-shut case of "derivative work." Perhaps less so in other languages, or maybe the estate is less vigilant about non-English languages, so the Chekhs et al took a calculated risk.
May I ask how you heard about this?
Здравствуйте, можно ли мне разместить ссыль на перевод на фейсбуковском акке? Сейчас читаю на русском и испытываю огромное удовольствие, хочется поделиться радостью с буржуйскими монсеньорами, шоб знали чё к чему!:)
|Date:||January 30th, 2011 04:12 pm (UTC)|| |
|Date:||January 29th, 2011 07:25 am (UTC)|| |
[My girlfriend linked the post]
Read the story this week. The translation is much appreciated. I may get around to writing a short reivew of the story itself on my blog, but in any case, it was quite enjoyable.
As you mentioned a second edition, here are just some small editorial notes below.
On page 108 of the text, there's a clear set of typos in the second sentence; probably it should read "had decided to call them Mountains of Shadow."
The DSD is called an acronym on page 202 of the text. Likely this is an abbreviation and not an acronym, unless it's really meant to be pronounced something like "Dissed." Of course it could be an acronym in Russian that doesn't turn out to be one in English.
I found the idea "scared spitless" to be a rather invented phrase, which I would find more like "scared shitless," but I have no idea which is better for translation. (It's on page 133, in any case.)
|Date:||January 31st, 2011 12:45 am (UTC)|| |
P. 108 - thank you. Two typos, drat.
P. 202 - I disagree. Here's the definition of "acronym" from Rference.com:
A word formed from the initial letters or groups of letters of words in a set phrase or series of words, as WAC from Women's Army Corps, OPEC from Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, or loran from long-range navigation.
As for "scared spitless," it's a current expression, a euphemism for "scared shitless." I feel that it's more appropriate for this text - the author mostly avoids profanity.
Again, thank you.
|Date:||February 2nd, 2011 05:58 pm (UTC)|| |
Thanks, but what's so much better about Mediafire?
(The part that's worse, for me, is that I can't track the number of downloads there, so my vanity suffers :-)
[you've been linked on reddit]
thanks for doing this. would you be willing to share a plain text version instead of a PDF? i would like to format it for my Kindle.
|Date:||February 2nd, 2011 08:13 pm (UTC)|| |
I came here via a tweet by @GalleyCat.
This concept has totally caught my imagination. I can't wait to read it!
Found out about this from a samurai history forum I follow.
This translation is quite the endeavor, and I absolutely commend you for it.
I am a little confused as to how the text functions, however. Were it written in non-fiction style, analyzing the Lord of the Rings and discussing the "real" history that might be understood from it, that I could understand. Just as one might write a PhD dissertation or academic book seeking to uncover the real history behind "The Tale of the Heike."
But this does not work that way. It's a narrative, a fiction work through and through. Only the epilogue reads the way I'd expected the entire thing to read, describing the "real" history of the key figures and events as if it were a non-fiction history book.
I don't mean to be critical; I'm just confused is all.
|Date:||February 17th, 2011 12:07 am (UTC)|| |
Что то лысого не видно )))
(Came here from a link from Gallycat)
This is fascinating!
Браво!!! Читаю и радуюсь - книга достаточно трудна для перевода, но получилось просто замечательно (жду не дождусь дочитать до Умбарской шпионской части) =)
|Date:||February 16th, 2011 11:30 pm (UTC)|| |
получилось гуд, да
Brilliant! Thank you! I'm reading it.
Very much enjoyed the novel. A very thoughtful and intelligent work.